—FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE—
 
JAMAICA, New York (May 11, 2012) – In a press release issued today, the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) expressed dismay at President Obama’s support for same-sex marriage.

Like Christianity and Judaism, Islam views marriage as a sacred bond between a man and a woman that serves as the basis for the family and thereby society. We believe that sexual relations can only be between a man and a woman within the context of marriage; indeed the family itself can only be formed from these relations. This traditional structure has allowed communities to flourish for thousands of years. The push to redefine the established institution of marriage and embrace homosexuality can only lead to the deterioration of the very structure of our communities and society as a whole.
President Obama’s support for same-sex marriage is a violation of God’s laws as spelled out in the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him. God Almighty states, “And among His signs is that He has created for you spouses from among yourselves so that you may live in tranquility with them” (Chapter 30, The Romans; Verse 21). These laws can also be found in other religious texts including the Bible, which states, “But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband” (1 Corinthians 7:2).
Islam regards homosexuality as a sin, but also supports the belief that God Almighty created every human being equally and that He alone will hold them responsible for their deeds. As Muslims and people of faith we must also remember that God has directed us to defend all people equally against bigotry, violence and abuse.

87 Responses

  1. Since you are weighing in on this subject how about weighing in when Muslim women are murdered. Like Shaima Alawadi, etc. Since homosexuality is haram it does not matter if they marry or not. Due to the whole lifestyle is contrary to what Allah reveals in the Quran, Torah and Injil.

  2. Mr. Baig, your attempt to speak with authority while at the same time talking through both sides of your mouth provides ample proof to many Muslims who live in the West that you are out of touch with Quranic teachings…you should not depend upon Quranic Cliff Notes to base your theories. As human kind has evolved, so has their thinking from the Islamic jurists lies of medieval times. Allah’s truth beams through the darkness you promote to continuously harm Muslims. Shame on your head and organization.

  3. I actually find this posting rather pointless. Obama is not talking about Islamic marriage, he’s talking about state-regulated marriage. Even if a law was passed for same-sex marriage to be allowed across the country, how would it affect us (straight people, Muslims, etc.) in any way? I could not care less if gay people want to get married. If they weren’t married, they’d still be in relationships anyway. This issue is about the benefits one receives from being in a legal marriage.
    So yeah, not sure why ICNA is even taking a stance on the POTUS’s position on something. It’s not like legalizing same-sex marriage would have any effect on opposite-sex marriage. And it certainly wouldn’t force us to officiate same-sex Islamic marriages (i.e. nikah). Getting involved and commenting on things like this is probably just adding more fuel to the fire of those who believe we’re trying to impose Shari’a on the United States. Just a thought.

  4. I have to agree with Sis Hadaiya & bro Humza. Who cares! Too many pressing issues that actually affects us. Its not like Pres O. is Muslim & saying he is goin along with the foolishness. Doesnt change who we are one way or another. I say this repsectfully, despite my exclamation points. 🙂 ICNA does a lot of great work, Al humdulilah. Look forward to seeing/hearing more of their work.

  5. sad sad stance you are taking and the wrong side of history.
    the countries governed by religious law are the exact opposite of flourishing civilizations.
    the greatest times of the muslim world were when we didn’t regulate morality via law.
    if you don’t learn from history you are doomed to repeat it.

  6. Br. Hamza Dawud Flanagan, so we have to wait till there’s an attack on “Islamic Marriage” for us to be concerned? Marriage is something sacred in the Abrahamic faiths, and is a bond between a MAN and WOMAN. We should express our concerns with an injustice no matter what form it comes in.
    The Prophet (saw) said if you see something wrong change it with your hands, if you’re unable than change it with your tongue (speak out against it) and if you’re unable to do that AT LEAST hate it in your hearts. Also, the people of Lut (as) weren’t just destroyed for committing the act but even those who said “what’s the big deal” and did nothing were destroyed.
    May Allah (swt) protect us all.

  7. @brother hamza..we are not required to merely stay away from sin, rather to speak out against it and have a dislike for it also. To have a love for seeing all of Allahs creation worship him and to dislike seeing His creation disobey Him. I do agree this is more about the benefits of a relationship versus actually having the relationship in private, however this would be a step in the direction of normalizing it altogether.

  8. Uhhh . . . there are more than just people of Abrahamic faiths living in this country. And in case you missed it the first time, this is a legal issue. Gay people are already in relationships and have “marriage”-type ceremonies regardless of whether or not their marriages are legally recognized. Where is the harm in letting them have the legal benefits of these partnerships? I truly think this would qualify as not focusing on the important issues.
    Besides, look at how often straight people in this country abuse the “sanctity” of marriage. Adultery is rampant, and most marriages end in divorce anyway (which, while Islamically permissible, is never the ideal end when one gets married). How would legalizing same-sex marriage change ANYTHING? It’s not going to deter gay people from being gay, so I say we not even worry about it.

  9. You guys can speak out against it all you want. Meanwhile, I’m trying to worry about myself and perfect my own Islam. I do, however, think that using the account of an organization to post such things is detrimental to our image in this country, which is already pretty bad (and mostly due to things that aren’t even true).

  10. ^I think everyone knows it’s happening, the issue is why is it being legalized? Especially by a President who just flip-flopped on his views when election season is around the corner. There are a lot of things happening (that shouldn’t) should the government just legalize it? Drugs, Prostitution, what about when the ban on alcohol was lifted, would we have been saying “Oh well people were drinking anyway what’s the big deal”. It’s a matter of principle.
    Homosexuality was seen EVEN in this society egregious but now is being normalized. If bestiality becomes more common and people want to start marrying animals should we just sit back and let that happen too? Seems like an improbable scenario right? Well so was a man marrying a man not too long ago.

  11. I don’t think animals can love back, lol. That analogy has never worked, because animals cannot reason in the same way humans can. That would constitute animal abuse, which I am vehemently against. As long as the two involved are consenting adults, same-sex marriage is not the same as marrying an animal. It’s a poor argument, and we really shouldn’t say anything since we are one of the few faiths in the world that still practices polygamy. WE know that it’s not wrong, but others use that as an argument against Islam.
    And banning alcohol in this country was a complete fail, because at least the production and sale is regulated when it’s legal. The stuff that people made and drank during the Prohibition was so unstable that it made people get sick and sometimes die. Therefore, believe it or not, it is actually better that there’s no countrywide ban on alcohol. And I see no issue with alcohol being legal in this country, because I’m not purchasing or drinking it. Similarly, if you’re not going to get married to a man, that’s fine; no one is saying that same-sex marriage will become mandatory.
    I really just do not see the big deal with letting other people live their lives. Should we start picketing outside churches because Christians worship Jesus? We know that shirk is the worst sin imaginable, so why are we focusing on same-sex marriage? It’s funny how even Muslims seem to pick and choose what they think is important to the faith when a specific issue pops up.

  12. Oh, and legal prostitution is a lot safer as well. I’m not condoning prostitution in general, but at least it has a lot less risks than the illegal kind. And if legalized sin is so bad, then why don’t we protest the existence of Las Vegas? Why are states that have legalized same-sex marriage (like my state, Massachusetts) still standing? Please, think about these things.

  13. No we shouldn’t stand outside churches because we can’t stop them (nor are encouraged to) stop them from worshipping (even under Shariah) so ofcourse not. But we still hate the act of shirk that they do and that can’t change.

  14. Gambling and prostitution are legal in Vegas. The President could certainly speak out against it if he wanted to. Somebody in the higher-ups could change it this, but I don’t hear them doing so. We should be speaking out against Obama for signing the NDAA if anything, not this silly same-sex marriage debate that doesn’t affect us AT ALL. Seriously, why would you lose sleep over gay people being able to get married? Why do you let it get to you so much when you know it’s not even your business?

  15. ICNA web-managers, it would behoove you to use hadith judiciously if you choose to use them to justify or defend your opinion. The Prophet (peace be upon him) also said, “O People . . . Treat others justly so that no one would be unjust to you” in his last sermon.
    If civil unions fail to provide the same legal rights as marriage in a non-theocratic society (i.e., the one in which we currently live), then this too is a form of injustice, so one could use this hadith to justify that opinion. And God knows best

  16. In a comment you posted “The Prophet (saw) said if you see something wrong change it with your hands, if you’re unable than change it with your tongue (speak out against it) and if you’re unable to do that AT LEAST hate it in your hearts.”
    It’s not my place to say if a hadith has been properly used or not since I lack the qualifications to make those determinations. I was simply pointing out that without the proper scholarly approach, cherry-picking hadith can be used to justify any opinion, so it would be more appropriate to not do so unless one is sure that the hadith, in all of its contexts, can be applied fully and appropriately with the correct interpretation. And God knows best

  17. Hamza, we have spoken out against NDAA as well as other pressing issues. And we felt this to be something of importance as well. Anything the government or state senate does is our business because we’re Americans.

  18. “Abu Sa’eed Al-Khudri said: ‘I heard the Messenger of Allah [SAW] say: Whoever among you sees an evil and changes it with his hand, then he has done his duty. Whoever is unable to do that, but changes it with his tongue, then he has done his duty. Whoever is unable to do that, but changes it with his heart, then he has done his duty, and that is the weakest of Faith.'” (Sahih)
    This hadith can be found in the 40 hadith of Imam Nawawi. Below you can find snippets of the explanation. We encourage you to read it in its entirety for your benefit.
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    The essence of the Islamic da’wah is enjoining the good and forbidding the evil, since whenever a person conveys the Message, he is enjoining good and forbidding evil. Therefore, it is a mistake to consider these two as separate matters, since they are actually performed concurrently and are synonymous.
    The main objective in fulfilling this obligation is to attain and maximize benefits, and to eliminate or minimize harm.
    Ibn Taymiyyah wrote: Enjoin the good in a good way and do not forbid the evil in an evil way. (Note: which is why we had a press release and tried to use the best way to go about discussing the matter)
    Scholars say that before using the hand, we should start with advice, warning the people of the consequence of evil and encouraging and motivating them to good actions. When this method has been fully utilised and there is no change in the people, only then is it permissible to use the hand.
    Imam ash-Shatibi says that the Caller must predict the consequences of what he says or do, whether by hand or by tongue.
    Ibn Rajab states that in enjoining the good and discouraging the evil the conductor is motivated by different reasons:
    1. It could be by hope in Allah’s great reward for doing it.
    2. It could be by fearing Allah’s punishment for renouncing this obligation.
    3. It could be by getting annoyed by seeing violations to what Allah has prescribed.
    4. It could be due to being faithful to the community members who indulge in evil and by being kind and merciful to them by making the effort to save them from being subject to Allah’s anger, displeasure and punishment in this life and in the Hereafter.
    5. It could be by glorifying Allah and Loving Him much, for He deserves to be obeyed, remembered, and thanked.

  19. I don’t think we need a full-on khutba simply because we choose to worry about more pressing issues, but thank you. And anyway, despite how “evil” some may see homosexuality as being, it is a victimless crime. The only person who ultimately suffers is the sinner. None of us are perfect, and all of us sin, so we should probably focus on trying to better ourselves before we demonize others. Islam, contrary to popular belief, is not about calling out other people on how bad they are.

  20. So, not only is your statement alienating potential allies, but it’s also showing your ignorance of other faiths. Marriage within the Abrahamic faiths is not uniform and static, and same-sex marriage is not new to Abrahamic faiths, some taking place before the advent of Muhammad (SAWS). But the bigger point is this: why would you alienate potential allies on a political point that you are likely to lose, and won’t improve the way that Islam is viewed or practiced? Bigots aren’t going to love Muslims because some Muslims are homophobic. But people who value civil rights are seeing Muslims oppose them and it’s not a good look. Civil recognition for same-sex marriage is going to happen, and soon- anyone who watches the news knows that. And opposing same-sex marriage won’t bring a single Muslim to the mosque who wasn’t attending, won’t inspire a single Muslim to fast, pray, or be kinder to the earth and those who live on it. You want something to fight against? Fight the proposed cuts to SNAP, Head Start, and other programs that benefit vulnerable children. Fight the bans on Shari’a that keep getting proposed and passed by state legislatures. Fight the forces that make life harder for the most vulnerable. For we are obliged to do that far more often in the Qur’an than we are to bar anyone from marrying.

  21. Brother the khutbah wasn’t for you it was for Mudassir who asked if we knew the context.
    Also Hamza, note that our purpose wasn’t to address the “sin” and we never issued a press release on homosexuality before. It was about the decision of the President. Yes we know there are far more grievous acts/sins that take place and it’s not our job to discuss the severity of them because that’s for the scholar to address.
    We keep confusing 2 points.

  22. But what do you think posting this will actually accomplish? Do you think the POTUS will actually read this, and then — even more unlikely — decide to change his mind again? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a big fan of his, and I can acknowledge the fact that his “evolution” on the issue is probably little more than a political move, but I just don’t see the point of releasing a decree about his opinion. It seems like it would be about as important to him as the fact that Bristol Palin, who had a child out of wedlock, similarly spoke out against his view.

  23. Homosexuality has been in every culture throughout time as a sexual variant so claiming it isn’t normal is an enormously ignorant thing to say. By making it into such a big deal is what’s abnormal. Why do you care so much what two same-sex people do in their bedrooms? Worry about your own lives

  24. “‘We teach our kids to live up to the Golden Rule but in our daily lives as adults we often fail miserably’, says MPV President Ani Zonneveld. ‘This is an epic example of living out that Golden Rule and, as Muslims, we should remember that Islam is a faith rooted in justice and from justice sprouts equality. We know that marriage equality is about justice for all so we must support it on both legal and religious fronts.’ The Quran teaches us marriage is between two souls. It is time the law of the land allows LGBTs their God given right to marry.”
    Muslims For Progressive Values Applauds President Obama’s Support Of Marriage Equality
    http://www.prlog.org/11871240-muslims-for-progressive-values-applauds-president-obamas-support-of-marriage-equality.html

  25. Hamza,
    I suggest you read Darwin’s Descent of Man where he argues that animals can indeed reason–in fact, they are cable of most higher emotions. Think of puppies who “love” there mothers. Before you tell me this is mere instinct, I’ll tell you there is a different between instinct, learned behaviors and association of habits. Read chapter 21; it will take you less than 10 minutes. Their moral faculties may not be the same as ours, but you cannot reduce them to animated machines. My suggestions will be completely in vain, however, if you don’t buy into the theory of evolution (which you’d be hard pressed to argue against nowadays). Best.

  26. Asalaam Alaikum: I highly recommend Scott Kugle’s book “Homosexuality in Islam.” I think it is important to understand the phenomenon before offering unenlightened opinions. Scott Kugle is an openly gay Muslim and Professor of Islamic Studies. Love, light and shadow, Jalaledin Ebrahim, Licensed psychotherapist

  27. There is an Islamic precedent for allowing communities outside of our own to be governed by their own laws. In regards to marriage in particular, there was a Zoroastrian practice called “self-marriage” in which men would marry their direct female relatives (mothers, sisters, daughters) in order to protect their people from intermixing. This is very clearly against Islamic law, but Ibn Qayim al-Jawziya ruled that if a Zoroastrian was to come to the Muslims for adjudication regarding “self marriage”, it would be judged according to Zoroastrian law.
    This community needs to understand that an Islamic marriage and a secular marriage are two different things — your nikkah means nothing to the government, and your government marriage papers mean nothing in Islam. Ideologically mixing the two in a legal sense is problematic and unnecessary.

  28. We need to be careful in saying our religious positions should impact law. We don’t like the thought of other religion’s impacting U.S. law. We can’t have it both ways – saying mosques shouldn’t be prevented from being built but saying our religion should impact laws. Lets keep laws & religion separate and focus our efforts (and ‘position’ statements) on peace between us ALL.

  29. Just because we live in a secular society, does not mean that we need to become secular Muslims. We have religious views which should absolutely affect our public views. We have every right to take a stand in what we believe in. Part of our beliefs are that public sins can bring upon the wrath of Allah (God). Homosexuality is not the only social ill that we are concerned with, but despite its current popularity and support we can not change our religion in exchange for meeting the demands of current trends.

  30. Perfect! For those wondering what is our thought on this recent development, Here it is. And, its politics every where as usual.

  31. Kelly Kaufmann, there’s a big difference don’t you think?
    We didn’t use any hate speech nor are we speaking out against anyone’s religious views. It was a small fringe that was protesting the Mosque being built, there wasn’t a National uproar.

  32. ^In regards to your first comment, ICNA admin, that is not the point at all. I think you know that. The point is simply that posting this decree of sorts will do absolutely nothing to deter the POTUS from making any decisions in the future, so what’s the point of even posting it? No one is talking about being “secular”, but we are to follow the laws of the land in which we live. Since same-sex marriage would only be an option and not mandatory upon all of us, we wouldn’t even have to worry about such a law, period.

  33. ICNA – OK I will give a more direct comparison: Do you think the U.S. should have laws against polygamy?

  34. Br. Hamza Dawud Flanagan, “The point is simply that posting this decree of sorts will do absolutely nothing to deter the POTUS from making any decisions in the future, so what’s the point of even posting it?” SubhanAllah does that mean we shouldn’t speak out against something even if others think “it won’t do anything”? Can you imagine the Sahaba telling the Prophet (saw) there’s no point in talking to the Quraish about leaving their worship of idols, it’s not like they’re going to listen? Or if Nuh (as) who spent 950 years preaching but only ended up with a handful of followers, said to himself “no one is listening so I should just stop” ? Or if Musa (as) said the same about Pharoah?

  35. JJ, London
    We don’t care what homosexuals do in their bedrooms but why do they want to call their union a marriage and force us to accept it as a marraige. They can call it a civil union or any name they want. Marriage is a religious institution and laws of any land have nothing to do with it.

  36. I guess I can’t be terribly surprised that my post was glossed over. Let me be more direct — how does this at all benefit me as a Muslim in North America? What even called for this? I can’t imagine that your phones were ringing and your doors were being knocked down hoping for a reaction to Obama’s recent stance.
    I can’t imagine that this will be beneficial for our community. You’re taking an incredibly simplistic approach to understanding Islamic law, and I expected much more out of this organization.

  37. We as muslims should not support “gay rights” in any matter if I’m not mistaken if you look to the islamic rulings on gay people is that they are stoned to death…burned…. or thrown off the highest mountain Allahu Akbar

  38. This facebook group does not represent the views of ICNA leadership, membership, scholars, scholarship students, or volunteers.
    All posts are the opinions of the web managers.
    Though I’m sure everyone appreciates their work, I just wanted to make that clear.

  39. ^Correct, the original linked statement is ICNA’s official response. For any of the admins, when we visit the page it has us post as “ICNA” so the response could be from any one of the admins of the facebook page from our social media team.

  40. Qasim, I hope you’re not comparing ICNA admins to any of the prophets. That is a poor analogy IMO. Just because ICNA refers to itself as an Islamic organization does not mean that it or any of its members have authority over the Ummah, and they’re certainly not bringing any new messages. The intention of the prophets/messengers was to bring people to God. We do not know the intentions of anyone living nowadays, so please watch how you formulate your comparisons and contrasts.

  41. “We believe that sexual relations can only be between a man and a woman within the context of marriage”
    ICNA is mixing it with another issue of sexual relations outside wedlock. Not carefully worded!
    “family itself can only be formed from these relations.”
    Ok. Dont call Homosexual unions as ‘marriage’.
    This traditional structure has allowed communities to flourish for thousands of years.
    “add: along with homosexuality throughout those thousands of years”
    The push to redefine the established institution of marriage and embrace homosexuality can only lead to the deterioration of the very structure of our communities and society as a whole.
    “But it has exited along with ‘established’ institution already!
    President Obama’s support for same-sex marriage is a violation of God’s laws as spelled out in the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him.
    “Is this the first and/ or only violation of Quran and Sunnah here?”
    I think this IndoPak organization just wanted to say something to take advantage of the current issue.

  42. I thought ICNA was supposed to speak for all Muslim Americans. As a child, I have been to many ICNA events, I have fond memories of looking up the ICNA site for start of ramadan or day of the eid. Yes, I am gay.
    First of all, there is a clear separation of church and state in the United States. You fall into the same trap as the Evangelicals. Just because bible makes it a sin or quran doesn’t mean we need to be against it. Why don’t you advocate against alcohol or pork? we are a country built on equal rights, and I am shocked that as Muslims, being the receiving end of oppression and persecution, you would act to make such a hateful statement against another minority group. How about some solidarity?
    And secondly, to say “homosexuality is a sin in islam.” Perhaps by your interpretation. Bigotry is a sin in Islam too and as is passing judgement. I shall be boycotting any donation to ICNA from now on and all your events. You have extremely hurt me, and I am sure many other Muslim Americans.

  43. I love this stance by ICNA, but I also like how one person here states that this page does not represent the organization and its members…funny coming from a commoner. It’s like me stating that facebook does not belong to Mark Z…who am I?

  44. I also like to mention that I like your WhyIslam work ICNA, very good organization, was the gateway for me and my wife to Islam. Thanks for the great work!

  45. Well, not only is this morally repugnant. Leaving morality aside (as Muslims, or just humans, we should be fighting for equality and inclusion of all our fellow citizens), it is also strategically and politically idiotic.
    LGBTQ community has been at the forefront for fighting for social justice- fighting against wiretaps, deportations, intimidation of Muslims, wars etc. Do we want to alienate one of our biggest allies and be in line with the position (and rhetoric) of far-right, fundamentalist Evangelicals who hate us?
    Again, morality comes first. But even ignoring that for a second and how inhumane this stance is, it is also just strategically a dumb move and I hope we do not alienate our LGBTQ allies as not all of us hate them and most of us are supporting them in their cause to equality along with those of all other oppressed groups

  46. “We believe that sexual relations can only be between a man and a woman within the context of marriage…”
    …or by owning a concubine, as countless Muslim men have done throughout Muslim history.

  47. Salaam, I’m appalled at some of the comments. Yes its up to every Muslim to give da’wah in islam. What is da’wah? Conveying the message of Islam. Our beloved PROPHET MUHAMMAD (saw) said: “whoever calls to guidance will have a reward similar to that one who follows it” … Just because we live in USA doesn’t mean one will forget about our religion. Have you heard about or read about the story of hazart Lut? His era of people were gay… So by Allah (swt) order hazart jibril took the land they were on & raised it to the heavens & turned it upside down. audhubillah! Please fear Allah (swt) …we all have to answer him one day. May ALLAH (swt) have his mercy on the rightly guided. Allah huma ameen.

  48. Salaam: I think all Muslim national and regional organizations even university MSAs and every islamic Center should have a clear stand on many social issues, and we should support those who have similar values. We also should know that we cannot change our religious belief. There are many good organizations which have similar values and we should work together and help each other. Mothers against drunk driving (MADD); recycling/Green initiatives; feeding the poor/soup kitchen; helping the orophans and needy; etc. Standing for our rights and having a clear stand even against the President’s position is a form of da’wah. We do not have to please everyone.

  49. I think it is important that we don’t get caught on this slippery slope. Of course, in Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, homosexual relationships are seen as sinful, and against religious law. We can’t change that, God will judge those who sin, whether it be fornication like homosexuality, or adultery, or drunkenness.
    But the part of this whole thing that makes a lot of non-Muslims, and even non-religious in this country fearful is the idea that Muslims want to eventually impose Islamic principles through Islamic law.
    For me, a Muslim, if I wanted to live in a country that practiced some form of Islamic law, I would do so. I don’t. I live in, and love my country. I do not want the liberties of non-religious violated, as I do not want my liberty to practice my religion openly by wearing hijab, or telling people about the beautiful message of the Qur’an, and our beloved Prophet, peace and blessings on him, and those preceding him.
    To deny homosexuals equal protections under the law, like protection of property and assets (which is all “marriage” according to the government does); would be against the principles of this country.
    If civil unions or “marriage” was available to homosexuals, it does not change the law or words of God. It does not mean imams, priests, or rabbis will be forced to perform these “marriages.” All the legalisation of such practice WOULD do, is allow those in these relationships to get a document from the government that says they are protected.

  50. Please stop making statements. A lot should go in before a statement should come out. I dont think you fit in USA.
    I learned that some years ago you also made a statement that Muslims/ Muslim countries should recognize Israel.
    Cant Mullahs do a better job? Or may be that is why some belive that religion ad politics must be separate.

  51. Position of Islam and Muslim on the issue of homosexualism in all its meaning and social ramification must be made clear: religiously, socially and politically. Muslim leadership should also speak clearly about the potential consequence of such homosexual behavior in reference to what happened to the people of same kind in the past, e.g. people and society of Lot, so that people are informed about it by Muslims. However, Muslim participation in the US election and voting system is crucial and they must take part in it, in which they must also vote for Obama for number of other reasons and this issue of same sex marriage may not stop Muslim from voting for Obama in the current context.

  52. @Kelly Kaufman I will give a more direct answer: Yes the US has laws against polygamy and these should stand.

  53. Thank you ICNA, for taking the step!!! I would also strongly say that President Obama’s support for Gay-marriage is a threat for the human ecology and social well-being.
    In Islam, Gay Marriage is regarded as a terrible sinful act. A whole nation was perished during the time of Prophet Lut (peace be upon him) for homosexuality of his people. Family growth, human generation and moral values will all be degraded if we support President Obama who is supporting the Gay Marriage.

  54. Same sex marriage Man+Man
    Woman+Woman
    What’s next
    Man+animal ,truly man has lost his way
    Truly now I believe that Islam the Quran is the
    Way.

  55. I think ICNA addressed this problem diplomatically. It should have CLEARLY stated whether it is Islamically ok to vote or not vote Obama because of his same-sex marriage stance. Moreover, is it Islamically ok to support gay marriages among non-muslims since Allah has given them the choice of practising their owm (un-Islamic) beliefs?

  56. I think ICNA addressed this problem diplomatically. It should have CLEARLY stated whether it is Islamically ok to vote or not vote Obama because of his same-sex marriage stance. Moreover, is it Islamically ok to support gay marriages among non-muslims since Allah has given them the choice of practising their owm (un-Islamic) beliefs?

  57. I think as far as our faith of Islam goes it is right to oppose same-sex marriage and/or union. But as far as living in a secular society I am opposed to any sort of discrimination and I don’t have a problem with living in a community with gay people in it. I was raised in a Christian family and my youngest brother David committed suicide because he had no one to talk to about his sexual orientation. Faith is a gift from Allah, and He doesn’t give it to everyone, so why should we expect gay people to give up their need for a mate in a comitted relationship. I say “Live and Let Live.”

  58. I think as far as our faith of Islam goes it is right to oppose same-sex marriage and/or union. But as far as living in a secular society I am opposed to any sort of discrimination and I don’t have a problem with living in a community with gay people in it. I was raised in a Christian family and my youngest brother David committed suicide because he had no one to talk to about his sexual orientation. Faith is a gift from Allah, and He doesn’t give it to everyone, so why should we expect gay people to give up their need for a mate in a comitted relationship. I say “Live and Let Live.”

  59. We should all think ahead and think about the future for our kids in this country. I think ICNA should just give a straight up view on same sex marriage, and it should be that same sex marriage is haram and forbidden in islam and thus as muslims we believe it should have never been legalized, but what can we do, the lobbys in this country are jewish and gay, so i guess they make the rules. I certainly don’t have a problem with gays or there marriages, they can do what ever they want cause they will be going to there own graves not mine, but I certainly wouldn’t want to raise my children in this society anymore. Decisions like these don’t have much of an effect on adults today because they are mature enough to know whats right and wrong for them, but it certainly has a major effect on a childs mind. If a child is raised in a society where a big sin such as same sex marriage was legal and not frowned upon, then certainly when they grow up, to them it wont be a sin at all and they will indulge in it too. If a society’s laws and rules are against islam and Living in such a society will harm your Imaan or your children’s imaan then it is haram for a muslim to live in that society and it becomes compulsary for a muslim to move out of that society and move to a much more Imaan healthy society even if the later is a so called backwards and a third world. Always remember that as muslims our Iman and our childrens Imaan is our first priority not food and clothes or shelter. At last I would just like to say if you live in a gutter then you cant always try to dodge filth from getting on your clothes.

  60. We should all think ahead and think about the future for our kids in this country. I think ICNA should just give a straight up view on same sex marriage, and it should be that same sex marriage is haram and forbidden in islam and thus as muslims we believe it should have never been legalized, but what can we do, the lobbys in this country are jewish and gay, so i guess they make the rules. I certainly don’t have a problem with gays or there marriages, they can do what ever they want cause they will be going to there own graves not mine, but I certainly wouldn’t want to raise my children in this society anymore. Decisions like these don’t have much of an effect on adults today because they are mature enough to know whats right and wrong for them, but it certainly has a major effect on a childs mind. If a child is raised in a society where a big sin such as same sex marriage was legal and not frowned upon, then certainly when they grow up, to them it wont be a sin at all and they will indulge in it too. If a society’s laws and rules are against islam and Living in such a society will harm your Imaan or your children’s imaan then it is haram for a muslim to live in that society and it becomes compulsary for a muslim to move out of that society and move to a much more Imaan healthy society even if the later is a so called backwards and a third world. Always remember that as muslims our Iman and our childrens Imaan is our first priority not food and clothes or shelter. At last I would just like to say if you live in a gutter then you cant always try to dodge filth from getting on your clothes.

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